Dorper, ingen monsterras

Det har idag varit en debatt om lamm i media, finns flera artiklar i SVD HÄR! Debatten har handlat om tre saker, lamm som föds upp inomhus, laparaskopisk insemination samt rasen dorper. Inomhuslamm och insemination återkommer vi till, nu till dorper.

Som ni kanske minns så var Jonas och barnen i USA över jul. Innan resan hade Jonas kollat upp om det fanns några fårgårdar i närheten av Muncie, Indiana, där de skulle bo. Och det fanns fårgårdar! Framför allt var det rasen columbia som Jonas var intresserad av. Fårgården Jonas fick kontakt med hade ett 20-tal columbiatackor men huvudsakligen hade de en besättning med 200 dorperfår. 

Därför tog Jonas och barnen hyrbilen en dag och åkte och hälsade på Jane and Dave Smith i närheten av Lafayette.

Så här bor bönder på prärien.

Och så här ser fårgubbar ut over there, ungefär som här på Gotland alltså. Dave Smith and Vendla.

Men nu till dagens debatt om dorperfår. Som lammklippare hade Jonas hört talas om dorper eftersom det är en ras som fäller ullen själv. De behöver alltså inte klippas. Dave tyckte de såg för jävliga ut när ullen låg kvar på ryggen och brukade ändå klippa dem. Här har han inte ännu gjort det.

Annars fungerar dorper som alla andra får. Ungarna snuttar precis som vanligt.

Huvudsakligen äter lammen ensilage eller hö.

Till det serveras en blandning av havre och majs. Inga konstigheter alltså.

Majs- och havreblandningen serveras i den här finurliga lammgömman. Det är Dave´s eget patent. Som alla vet gillar lammungar att ta sig upp på höjder, brunnslock, gödselhögar, jordhögar, stenhögar etc, de dras dit. Den här lammgömman utnyttjar den lekfullheten. Lammen springer gärna upp där och äter.

Mamman ser till att det inte busas allt för mycket.

Dorpisarna vaktas av den här lamatanten. Som ni ser kan alla springa ut och in, om de vill.

När inte tanten vaktar pussas hon med Jane.

Sötnos!

Det är lite blandat hur dorpisarna ser ut. Det kommer sig av att dorperrasen är en blandras från början. Någon gång på 30-talet korsade man dorset och persian i Sydafrika, därav namnet, dorper.

Sedan stenåldern har människan avlat på att ullen ska sitta kvar på fåret. Men hos denna korsningsras fälls ullen som hos vildtypen.

De är alltså inte utan ull eller nakna, som framkommit i debatten. De fäller den gamla ullen och sedan växer det ut en ny fäll, som de sedan tappar.

Lammköttet såldes i stor utsträckning till muslimska gästforskare och studenter på Purdue University, det stora lantbruksuniversitet i USA, som ligger i Lafayette.

Allting i USA är inte stort och fancy. Jonas och barnen kände sig hemma i det enkelt byggda lammhuset. Bilden kunde faktiskt ha varit tagen här vid Hägsarve.

 

De verkliga monsterfåren, om det alls finns några sådana, är columbiafåret. Se hur långbent och stor hon är, den nylammade tackan.

Jonas och barnen hade tur, lamningen hade precis börjat, en liten snubbe hade kommit. Se vilka öron,

 

och vilka fötter!

Lång svans också.

Mor och son med Jane och Vendla.

Precis ny columbiakille. Se vilka långa ben! Mamman är nyklippt av Dave.  Anledningen att Jonas ville besöka just Jane och Daves gård var att Jonas visste att dorper var på väg till Sverige. Kanske är columbia på väg hit också, kanske till Hägsarve….

/ Mien och Jonas

299 Responses to “Dorper, ingen monsterras”

  1. Annelie Says:

    Hej Mien och Jonas,
    Vilket bra inlägg och bildreportage, jag har länkat till det i min blogg (hoppas det är ok). Satte nästan kaffet i vrångstrupen i morse när jag hörde morgonnyheterna. Jag gillar ju lantraser men när nyheter läggs fram så förutfattat och med så dålig research kan man inte låta bli att bli att humöret hoppar ur led. Tyckte att ordförande för Fåravelsförbundet skötte det bra även om han fick för lite tid på sig.
    Förutom det så hoppas jag ni får en trevlig helg.
    Annelie

  2. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Hej och tack så jätte-mycket för ert stöd! Igår var en ledsam dag för mig med alla osanningar om dorperrasen och fårnäringen. Ett exempel på hur så kallade journalister använder sig av sensationslysten journalistik och skrämseltaktik för att klättra på karriärstegen.
    Men idag känns det lite bättre och jag tycker fortfarande att det jag gjort kan vara en positiv utveckling för svensk fårnäring.
    Jag har lagt ut ett brev på min site (under den svenska flaggan) om hur jag känner och skulle vilja länka till ert inlägg. Är det okay?
    Tack igen!
    Ina

  3. admin Says:

    Hej Annelie!
    Länka gärna! Det var det som var vår tanke med inlägget! Var hörde du Bertil Gabrielsson prata?
    Mien

    Hej Ingegerd!
    Nej, det är tråkigt när så mycket okunskap sprids i media. Lyssnade på ett reportage i P3:s brunchrapporten igår också som var mer än lovligt tramsigt och fördomsfullt. Länka gärna till vårt reportage!
    All the best!
    mien

  4. Annelie Says:

    Hej, jag hörde honom på morgonens nyhetssändning i p1.
    /Annelie

  5. Lena Says:

    Det är programserien “Matens pris” i P1 som har gjort grundprogrammet och på deras hemsida finns alla ekoinslag och debatter som följt i dess spår. Fast det vet du väl vid det här laget…
    De första två programmen om sojaodling i Latinamerika och tomatodling i Holland var i huvudsak bra tyckte jag även om de glömde berätta att den svenska storskaliga tomatodlingen ser likadan ut som den holländska… Nu kommer jag att lyssna mer kritiskt till de följande programmen.
    Lena

  6. Åsa! Says:

    Vilket intressant inlägg! Hur ofta tappar dom ullen? Hänger det ihop med årstiderna?

  7. Hanna Says:

    Det här är kanske något för GA. De gillar ju att skapa rubriker. Det skulle ju passa på deras lantbrukssidor och nu när myskanden inte blev någon succé för dig så kanske du kan få lite upprättelse…ha,ha,ha

  8. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Hej Åsa,
    Dorpern fäller pälsen på våren när det börjar bli varmt så svaret är ja, det är helt beroende på säsong och klimat. I Mexiko (+30) så växer pälsen aldrig riktigt tillbaka och i Kanada (-30) så blir dom riktigt ulliga på vintern. Deras “päls” är begränsad till ryggen och är alltid “bara” under. Där växer det aldrig ull men deras hår är tjockt och poröst vilket håller värmen. Deras hud är tjockare än de flesta andra raser vilket bidrar till att de anpassar sig väl till många olika klimat.

  9. Paula Says:

    Ingrgärd, helt exakt kan du berätta varför du gör reklam till en fårras som absolut inte klarar av vår nordiska klimat.
    Köttindustrin är naturligtvis alldeles i extas, köttiga får, behöver inte klippas och ger många lamm per år. Perfekt för giriga lata som vill tjäna pengar på djur som inte kan protestera.

  10. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Paula,
    Först skulle jag vilja veta var du har fått informtionen att dorpern “absolut inte klarar vårt klimat”? Du läste uppenbarligen inte mitt inlägg ovan där jag pratade om tjockleken på huden!

    Dorpern är framtagen för att klara ett extremt klimat eftersom i delar av Sydafrika är det hett på dagarna och väldigt kallt på nätterna. Man behöver inte vara ullbärare för att klara kyla! Se på våra egna Svenska djur! Vidare, dorpern är en vanlig fårras, inte något “biffigt monster”. Den är känd för sitt goda foderutbyte och sin förmåga att producera kött enbart på bete. Dorpern är bäst lämpad för en extensiv uppfödning och inte en intensiv som det har skrivits. Den är alltså den totala motsatsen mot allting som media har publicerat de senaste dagarna! Det finns en hel del fårraser som inte behöver klippas och som kan betäckas året runt så varför är detta en sån sensation?

    Innan du kallar mig för lat så kanske du kan ställa frågan till dig själv: varför har inte du slagit upp informationen om rasen på Internet om det här är ett ämne som får dig så här upprörd? Är inte det lathet? Passar perfekt in med vad media ville med det här: skapa hysteri och sensation baserat på lögner hos passiva människor som egentiligen inte är ett dugg intresserade av sanningen!

    Ina

  11. veronica Says:

    För min del får folk föda upp vilken ras de vill, så länge de tar hand om djuren ordentligt. Men jag tycker inte att debatten på SVD i alla fall handlade så mycket om Dorperfåret, utan om att allt fler bönder föder upp lamm som aldrig har fått gå ute och beta.
    Jag tycker helt allvarligt att det är att skjuta hela varumärket “lammkött” i sank att börja med inomhusuppfödning.
    Konsumenterna vill verkligen, verkligen ha ett kött som man kan äta med gott samvete.
    Och lamm som har fått gå ute och beta på sommaren har allt! De har fått gå ute med sina mammor och dia i stora hagar, de håller landskapet öppet och äter inte färdiga kraftfoderblandningar (som ex. kan innehålla soja).
    Men sen har konsumenterna inte fattat att det inte finns “svenska vårlamm”, i alla fall inte som är födda i Sverige. Jag vet inte hur folk tänker att det ska gå ihop med både sommarebete OCH lammstek till påsk….
    Faktum är att folk inte tänker. MEN däremot vet jag helt säkert att om konsumenten fick frågan så här:
    “Skulle du vilja köpa färskt svenskt lammkött på våren om det innebar att lammen som slaktas ALDRIG har fått gå utomhus och beta?” Så skulle majoriteten svara NEJ.
    I debatten på Svd var den några arga bönder som argumenterade för att eftersom priset som de får ut för köttet från slakteriet är så lågt så måste de öka produktionen. Nej, säger jag. Byt slakteri istället, eller starta ett eget, och sälj direkt till konsument. Då får du 85-90 kr/kg istället direkt och kan gå runt alldeles utmärkt på en mindre intensiv produktion.
    Lösningen kan inte vara att göra “grisar” av lamm. Vi har redan grisar, och kolla hur populärt det är. Det vore väldigt fel om lammbönderna gräver ner sig i skyttegravar och skyller på elaka medier och dumma konsumenter/stadsbor.
    Om problemet egentligen är slaktpriset, se till att göra något åt det istället!

  12. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Jag måste fråga: eftersom marknaden vill ha lammkött året runt, är det då bättre att vi importerar köttet från andra länder där vi inte har någon som helst insyn i djurskötsel och hantering? Och om jag förstår problemet rätt så är det helt okay att äta svenskt lammkött till påsk om lammen har fötts upp i snödrivor istället för en byggnad? Konsumenten vill ha en liten slaktkropp och lammuppfödarna har inget val i den frågan. Konsumenten måste lita på att vi som arbetar med djur gör det med ansvar och anpassar uppfödningsmetoden till klimat och omgivning. För övrigt så är det bara konsumenten som kan påverka priset på slakteriet.

  13. veronica Says:

    Ingegerd:
    Vi ska absolut inte föda upp några lamm i snödrivor.

    Min poäng är att vi istället måste “uppfostra” konsumenten till att köpa lammkött på hösten istället, dvs äta efter säsong. (Det funkar utmärkt med hummer, jordgubbar, sparris etc)

    Och att det vore mycket bättre om folk vande sig vid att köpa ett helt eller halvt lamm på hösten direkt av en uppfödare och stoppade i frysen. Sen har man en jättefin lammstek att äta till påsk.
    (Alternativt köpte fryst lammkött på våren om man inte har någon stor frysbox hemma.)

    Att lammen äter gräs är ju en av anledningarna till att köttet har så fin kvalitet och blivit så populärt! Lamm är gräsätare, och en diet som består av gräs ger ett mycket bättre och godare kött , med fler nyttigare omegafett än djur som inte föds upp på gräs. Det blir inte ett dugg sämre av att ligga ett halvår i en frys.

    Jag är också helt övertygad om att “marknaden” inte alls ha lammkött året runt om det innebär att lammen inte har fått gå ute.
    Det marknaden vill ha är ett kött de kan äta med gott samvete!
    Det är därför lammkött blir mer och mer populärt (nu när uppfödningen av grisar och höns gör att allt fler väljer bort den typen av kött).

    Det är helt fel att göra slutsatsen “lammkött blir allt mer populärt, därför måste vi producera mer lamm, även om det innebär att lammen kommer födas inomhus och aldrig kommer äta gräs, dvs föda upp dem som grisar och höns”. För det är INTE vad “marknaden” vill ha.

    När det gäller slaktpriset så vill jag bara säga att vi slaktar våra lamm på ett litet lokalt slakteri, och gör återtag på allt kött. Vi sätter de priser vi vill, och sålt köttet för 85 kr kg för ett helt lamm och våra kunder tycker att det är BILLIGT!
    Jag lovar, det är inte svårt att hitta kunder till lammkött. Man måste bara våga tänka utanför “LRF-SCAN-mallen”.

  14. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Vi har alla olika åsikter men målet är detsamma: behandla djur som djur och inte som mat förrän de är på slakteriet! Min åsikt är att det faktum att uppfödningsmetoderna är olika är helt okay så länge djuren har det bra.

  15. veronica Says:

    Visst har vi rätt att ha olika åsikter, men då får man heller inte bli förvånad om “folk”, läs media/konsumenter blir ilskna när de känner sig lurade.

  16. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Ingen skulle känna sig “lurad” om det som media rapporterade var sanning.

  17. veronica Says:

    Pliis, det tjänar ingenting till att skylla på “dumma journalister”.

    Alla lammbönder måste analysera konsekvenserna som kan uppstå om lammproduktionen blir ihopbuntad med produktionen av broilers och grisar i konsumentens ögon.

    Jag kommer exempelvis uttryckligen göra reklam för att mina lamm fått gå ute och beta hela sommaren och absolut inte fötts upp inomhus.

    Jag tror också det vore mycket klokare att satsa på en “lammpremiär” på hösten, och gör reklam för den fantastiska köttkvalitén som naturbetet ger. Samt kapa mellanhänderna….

  18. Ingegerd Eriksson Says:

    Lycka till med din lammsatsning and vilken tur att du kan dra nytta av den här mediahysterin och tjäna lite extra.

  19. veronica Says:

    “Mediahysteri” eller inte, vi måste lyssna på våra kunder. Om folk blir upprörda över lamm som aldrig fått beta eller gått ute, så betyder det någonting.

  20. ellen Says:

    Har läst inläggen på denna sida och undrar varför endel tycks tro att vårlamm måste födas upp som grisar, med andra ord intensivt och på kraftfoder?? Det går att producera bra lammkött inomhus även extensivt, det vill säga bara på gräs. Min erfarenhet av lamm på bete under sommarn är inte speciellt positiv, de klarar sig sällan att växa bra i hagmarker utan kräver en ordentlig vall och vad är det då för vits med att ha dem ute och riskera att de blir vargamat??

  21. Ej Bonde Says:

    Intressant att läsa om lammproduktionen i USA . Mysig artikel. Kan man införa samma djurskydd här som där ? Alltså inget överhuvudtaget ! Det vore väl bra för er bönder ? Ritualslakt utan föregående bedövning låter väl mysigt. Det kanske kan bli en stor export till Saudiarabien? Det måste dessutom, vara bra för ben och leder att utfodra dem med kraftfoder.Det spelar väl inte så stor roll de ska ju ändå slaktas… Lönsamhet framför allt !

  22. Lars Jöran Edström Says:

    Tack för den fina resereportaget från Amerikat. Bra om Dorper. Alldeles sant det finns inga monsterraser. Columbiatackan med avkomma var mäktig. Våra husdjursraser är en funktion av de behov och möjligheter som varit för handen, det gäller för alla kritter. I dag då vi i alla fall i den västlig delen av världen lever lite långt borta från verkligheten - blir det så lätt konstiga övertoner. Verkligheten på landsbygden, inom lantbruket är många fjärran och mycket abstrakt, i många stycken helt ogripbar. Helt ofattbar är åsikterna att det bara är folk som behöver kosttillskott och att “kraftfoder” är helt förkastligt. Räcker inte ensilage/hö och beten till är det ren och skär vanvård att inte tillskottsutfodra.
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